Engineering Student Council

Mali nga naman 'ung nakita nya na naglalaro habang nagk-klase. Pero hindi na tamang i-ban sa buong building 'ung ganung klaseng mga gadgets. Sa classroom, habang may klase, walang problema na ipagbawal, pero mali na 'ung kahit walang klase ay ipagbawal nya un sa corridors, etc. Bakit hindi nya naisipan 'un dati pa, nung sikat pa ang Rubik's cube? Marami rin nagru-Rubik's habang nagka-klase ah.

Saka, IMO, napakagulo nung announcement na un na nakapost sa lobby. Ano kinalaman ng pagkain sa paglalaro ng PSP at pati pagdadala nun nadamay? :P

~Aja Lorenzo Lapus, 5ECEA

that's unreasonable and absurd...!!!! at least he should have a much qualified or fitting reason for that... and this ordinance should be appealed because this is abuse of power...

-Angelo Gonzalez, 2CS-C

uu nga nmn d pwde ung ganun.. kung nahuli man nya na may nag lalaro ng psp habang me klase dpat ung prof ung cnabihan nya.. mali nmn na ipag bawal na mag dala.. dpat bawal lang maglaro habang me klase..

-Elaine Chua 5 ECE A

Sa akin ayos lang na ipagbawal maglaro sa LOOB ng classroom. Pero kapag sa labas na ng classroom at walang ginagawa ang isang estudyante ay naglolokohan na tayo.

Kasi ang pinakadahilan ko lang ay makinig ng mga tugtugin. Kung ipiniasa niya ang ordinansang pinagbabawal magdala ng PSP ang ibig sa bihin niya makita lang na gumagamit ka nun ay yari tayo.

Sana hindi niya na i-generalize agad ang gamit ng PSP. Hindi lang naman kasi gamit panglaro eh. May internet browser kapag kailangan mo nag-search ng isang bagay. Mp3 player na lalagyan mo ng earphones para sayo lang ang tunog at hindi makaabala sa mga tao. Lagyan ng application katulad ng Adobe Reader, Word o kahit anung program na kailangan kung walang computer na malapit.


Ilagay na lang natin sa ating isipan na hindi madaling bumili ng laptop at ito ang isa sa pinakamalapit at pinakamurang alternatibo. Sana mabago at maliwanagan ang pag-iisip ng mahal nating Dekano.

Sana maging responsable tayong mga estudyante sa paggamit ng PSP o kahit anung 'electronic gadgets'.

-Jeffrey Tayawa, 2-22

tsk! sana wag naman i-ban sa buong building ang pag p-PSP. ito na nga lang libangan ng mga estudyante pag walang klase at nkatambay sa building. mas mabuti n na nag p-PSP ang mga estudyante habang wala pang klase kesa mapag isipan na umalis n ng building at d n umattend ng class.

hai sana mawala itong policy na to. tsk!

- lawrence salvador 1IS1

I think it's the time to boost student rights... kung lagi padagdag ng padagdag ang mga restrictions sa atin... imagine what a future thomasian engineer would look like... a robot... The professional world says that thomasian engineers nowadays lack confidence.... I think... what the admistration is doing now isn't helping the students to boost their confidence... the more they are SUPRESSING the probable potential of the students...

playing consoles is just one of the stress relievers of some.... dinamay ang lahat sa pagkakamali ng ilan lang... taking away this stress reducers may result to a more unstable student....

There are just too many things to point... With all this TOO MANY restriction here in there... UST would NOT BE PRODUCING flexible engineers and IT experts....

Before having a dialogue with the administration... maybe have a consultation to the students affairs office...

Sana maayos din ang lahat ng ito... para sa ikasasaya ng buhay engineering sa UST....

Smile lang tyo lagi.... :D

Both ESC Executive Board and EDSA is scheduled to have an emergency meeting at 11am tomorrow.

we will release a legal and just statement regarding this matter.

btw..
The CSC Central Board Speaker and CSC President is in our Faculty.

I think this move by Sir Lim comes out as a double-edged blade. For one, its a pretty good policy since some students (of whom i know of) abuse their time in class to use the said gadget, may it be on water breaks, seatworks, or even while the professor is discussing. This *PSP* then becomes a hindrance to what students are intended to do in UST, to study, that is.

But of course, the removal of the PSP from the go-list of usable gadgets inside the premises of Roque-Ruano is one heck of a gut-punch against the student body itself. I, for one, play with my friends during our BREAKtime, breaktime meaning that one hour that precedes some subjects. PSP's have become part of our daily routine, since it is a venue to relieve stress. I think they should repeal this ordinance, and in its place reckon,

"PSP's are banned during class hours, according to the class schedule of the said student."

Naisip ko lang din na pag talagang natuloy ito ay marami-raming estudyante, lalo na sa nga freshmen na light load pa ang pinapataw, ang mag-cucutting classes, since they will either go out of the premises just to have a match of tekken, or just go home instead of waiting for their next subject five hours from the said time (I am a victim of this..lolXD).

They shouldnt think that their students have no will to learn and will just go "papetix-petix", rather, they should motivate them instead. How come they say that their students are well rounded, well motivated and unstressed, when,in fact, they put large burdens on their students without compensation.

wake up at exactly 10 am, do my daily regulars before i go to school. After an hour of stress on the jeep, I walk towards my classroom. Then, after three more hours, the class ends and usually still have time to sit down and do nothing for about 30 minutes. of course I wouldnt break my notes out since its still quite fresh in my mind. then I go to my next class. over and over this happens in one day. After that,I get home at 10pm, brush up on my notes for one whole hour, clean the house, then sleep. Image doing that for the next two years of your life. With the fact that I'm underloaded for this semester, I want to make emphasis to the other students whose daily activities are identical to mine, only at a heavier intensity, where do we get our rest time. Sundays are for God in the morning and to Review in the night. Monday come more chores, no time to think about myself. Come saturday, wow, what an experience, a five-hour break, One of my profs say that the real learning experience only happens in on hour, and nothing after that, until you break the cycle and give the students a rest, so why am i going to study anyway? I already did. so what am i going to do? go home? well, I still have a 8-9 schedule, papasok pa ba ko? AYOKO na.

hahaha, well, kung ibang tao yun di sila papasok, of course I do go to that class.

Naisip ko lang na yung dahilan ng pagbili ng mga estudyante ng PSP ay dahil gusto nilang magrelax, gusto nilang kahit papaano maexperience na maalis yung tensyon sa mga puso nila na baka bumagsak o baka madebar. Lets give The profs their own psp's and let them think forthemselves. kung sila natetensyon sila sa pamamahagi ng kaalamang alam na nila noon pa, pano pa yung mga estudyante nila, na nagpupumilit matuto ng mga teorya, formula, applications at ways of thinking na wala naman sa nature nila nung kabataan nila? just my two cents.

-David Francis D.C. Tan, 4CEA, 3CEB, Irregular and proud to be delayed

we'll figure out something to voice out your opinions so don't worry...

Franz Kevin Geronimo from 3CEC
Assoc Head of Student's Rights and Welfare Committee of ESC

about the food policy, we should blame, in addition to the admin, the people who litter bottles and styrofoams around the corridors, classrooms, i.e. the whole building.

Only a few workplaces in the WORLD ban food inside their premises, especially since they want their workers to work double time. Ngayon, how are we supposed to work double time on empty stomachs? Baka may masiraan ng bait sa gutom, kumuha ng volatile na flammable material sa ChE lab at manunog ng bldg, o kumuha ng lagari o steel rod sa CE lab at manaksak ng ibang estudnyante... joke, kidding aside, if they intend to ban food from entering our beloved second home, then they should put more frequent LONG breaks... and moreover, Higher quality drinking fountains, mas maganda sana kung water dispenser nalang. kasi, kahit free sa ecoli and other infectious organisms yung tubig, the mere tubing of the water pump itself, plus the tube going up to our mouths, have all as well been corroded. Maghihintay nalang ba tayo na may mamatay sa hepatitis sa student body? o ma-lead poison yung karamihan satin at mawala yung all so precious intellect natin? I say neigh to that.. Eto, sinabi na toh sa ENE301 ha.. galing na toh sa subject namin.

Drinking water should be:
1.) of class A standard, meaning highest quality of clean water
2.) SHOULD BE PALPABLE, meaning no OFF-COLORING, FOUL ODOR and TASTE


sana they take what they teach us SERIOUSLY... Ibinabalik ko sa inyo yung mga tinuturo niyo samin admin. we have rights too.

_blahblah from 4CEA

PS: suspend me of you want admin, but the CE dep taught me that people depend onme,and therefore,I stand for them,

hahah honga eh.XD only meansmaraming grievance yung community

PSP, eating inside ENG... what next?... uniform underwears?... Ban sila ng ban ehh mga facilities ng eng di nila maayos, pano ka rin makakapagaral nyan pag sira mga aircon, di gumaganang mga projectors.

good job!

Matt Matel
-4ITA

Students of the faculty of Engineering are no longer kids, they should be allowed to do what they want but with moderation, and banning PSP is not allowing students to do what they want.. Free time is called free time because students should be FREE to do what they want, if playing PSP is what they want and not studying then so be it, it is no longer the admins' problem. Last time i check, everyone has God-given freewill and our government is democracy, students have rights to use the engineering building to do whatever they want as long as they don't disturb others!

Well, this is my opinion, if I am dean, I will even allow students to come to class drunk as long as they do good in class and they don't disturb others. lolz!

By the way, kat I'm proud of you, atleast now students will feel that they are not alone, and they have rights, and there is someone (or an organization) who will fight for it.

eto lang naman yung point jan kung bakit sa tingin ko pinatupad ng ating mahal na dean yang policy na yan:

BE RESPONSIBLE.

matatanda na tayo. hindi na tayo kailangan pang sawayin at pagalitan. alam na natin ang tama at mali. magPSP ka man ng may klase, nasasayo na yon pero sana RESPETO naman sa mga guro nating nagtuturo sa harap. alam ko medyo boring yung iba pero kahit na ganun, RESPETO parin. Yun lang naman ang gusto siguro ng dean natin.

tungkol naman sa pagkain, hindi naman po bawal kumain sa loob ng engg, pero sana MAGING RESPONSABLE tayo sa mga kalat natin. ang punto lang naman dun e sana panatilihing MALINIS ang ating kapaligiran lalo na ang ating mga silid-aralan.

nakakatuwa at maraming inhinyerong tomasinong handang tumayo at magsalita para sa kanilang mga opinyon. ;p

sana lang po ay magtulungan tayo para sa resolusyonan at maaksyunan ang problemang ito. sana walang iwanan at suportahan natin ang kapwa nating inhinyerong tomasino lalo na ang ating ESC.

salamat po.

Alex Cortez, 4it-a
Committee Head, Student Rights and Welfare, ESC

sana ung air conditioning units na lang ang maging topic dito. sa palagay ko, may mas mapapala tayo don. haha. :D

Angela Solomon
4CS-A

:D

lolx.. haha.. same here.. =b

but on the other student's behalf, we shouldn't all be punished just because of those 2 irresponsible students.. fyi, not all engineering students are like them.. =\

for me this policy is way below reason and is definitely an immature policy which should not be implemented..

on the other hand, we students should be responsible enough to know our limitations in school.. one stupid act could cause a lot for the whole student body.. COLLEGE NA TAYO!!.. we should know better.. tsk3..

CHAM NOLASCO -- 2-11, publication staff, esc

As College students we should know our reponsibilities, we should already know when to use these gadgets. Kahit cellphone naman yan eh, pag may class siyempre pambabastos na gamitin yan sa harap ng mga Prof.

Nung pagpasok ko palang ng College akala ko malaking malaki pinagkaiba ng environment, rules etc. ngayon parang Highschool lang eh XD.

Gian, 3-CSB

responsibility lang naman ng mga tao.pero tingin ko talaga unreasonable ung pagBAN ng psp and other gadgets sa buong ENG bldg.kung ibaban man un, sa loob ng classroom habang nagklaklase lang.there are other things na dapat pagtuunan ng pansin kaysa dito.

cyempre sa students wala naman din bastusan,wag magpsp habang nagklaklase.kumbaga respeto din..

chawz,4-ITA

Guys in this institution we are trained to be RESPONSIBLE and RESPECTFUL. Thus,we must THINK TWICE BEFORE WE ACT. An act like playing a PSP in a class with a professor is really unacceptable in the eyes of our Dean. Would you imagine a student playing PSP and listening to the lecture of his or her professor? doing the same thing at the same time? Well, i guess we defy the reason why we enrolled here. Again we enrolled here to learn not to play. On the otherhand, banning the said gadget is not acceptable if only you play these gadgets outside the classroom or if you have your break time. We , The ESC Family are here to Voice out your opinions so don't worry, we'll figure something out.

Thank you guys and continue supporting the ESC,

Franz Kevin Geronimo 3CEC
Assoc. Head, Student's Rights and Welfare Committee

Buti nalang wala akong PSP. :P

wahaha..olrayt.
samin din madaming tekken boys..
everyday, 5-10 ata nagdadala ng PSP samin.lol

Hahaha! The comments here are as ridiculous as the policy.

For a while I thought I was browsing a thread about world peace.

I give this post two-thumbs up!

- Sheridan Adlaon. 4CE-B.

Responsibility na lang ito talaga eh. May pagkukulang ang iba pero hindi kelangan na sabihin ay lahat. nakakatawang isipin na dahil lamang sa dalawang tao, maisasakripisyo ang kaligayahan nang napakaraming tao.

Tama lng un... kasi pagnaglalaro psp sobra ingay nong iba... nakakaistorbo ng klase... tulad n lng ktabi sec nmin... ang ingay sobra.. dapat lng na bawal na psp... hehe... Bawal dn b pagkain sa Room? auz un... mamamayat ako.. 9 to 4pm klas ko.. la break... makatarungan un... my klas pa ko 5 to 8...

STEVEN TAN
3ME A

Tama ka dyan Cyrus! Kasi pag-alam naabuso na ang kapangyarihan syempre magrerebelde ang mga estudyante.

banning of the PSP is wrong. students are free to do what they want! isnt that what college is about? we're no longer kids. we choose what we want to do.

Well I don't have a PSP so I don't mind but they don't lend it to me so I am ok with it!
Although yes indeed those who have it shouldn't use it in class and still study.
Though I am afraid if these go further PSP is not the only consloe for games such as cellphones and laptops.
Students should find other stuff to do during class like listening. pretend to listen and think of other stuff or the old doodle in the notebook. As some others may have said it's only used to pass time but not when you have class.
Lend me to play pls!

nakkainis. lahat n lng bawal sa eng'g. ginagawa nya tayong HIGHSCHOOL! ampf. wag nman nya sana ipagbawal ung PSP or pati mga similar gadgets. pano nman pag break? tska may rumors ako na narinig pati daw laptop bawal?!

nde ka nman eng'g ah... hahaha...=))

It feels as if we're experiencing martial law within the confines of our college building. ano ba! it's absurd na...lahat binabawal! buhok, pagkain! What does this mean?! Tinatanggal na nila pati freedom of expression natin - what's left of it anyway. And 'yung food. Maraming scheds ang sablay so d maiiwasang may estudyanteng magugutom..alam naman nating lahat na napakalayo ng mga kainan sa building natin kaya d basta-basta tayo makakalabas to get refreshments. Playing PSPs inside the room during class hours, 'yun ang bawal. Playing PSPs after class hours or during breaks...ano masama dun? It's a form of unwinding in the students' part. We all know naman the stress our courses inflict upon us. Puro nalang aral...we all need a bit of leniency naman! Wala na bang AMOR? And ang daming bawal... Hindi ito "bahay ni kuya" at HINDI ka si "kuya", ENGG building to hoy. Our building is supposed to be our second home but lumalabas sa daming ipinagbabawal e para na tayong mga preso. Orange nalang uniform o. Palagyan nila ng "P".

nde na nya ko handle... bleh...=p at may chocolates pa rin ako d2.... hahahaha...=))

kelan ba pinagbawal ung food..???

ipagbabawal palang. un 'yung plano ng dean.

oh...?! p**yeta... eh pno na nga ung mga mahahabang sched na wlang break.... ampf.... >=( pde bang mag-complain agad sa OSA..????

inggit lng sha ndi sha marunong magPSP. :P wala sha kalaro. :P

ang sbihin mo wala syang PSP... hahaha...=)) sya nga rin ata ung may pinaka panget na kotse sa lhat ng mga dean eh.... hahahaa...=)) (laitin ba..?!)

hahahaha...wag muna kung kaya pa ayusin sa local level wag muna....parang sabi ng samin sa ESC, "OIC muna kausapin mo, kung hindi parin ma resolve saka ka dumulog sa mas mataas na posisyon"

the vision of Sir Lim is to train us to become more professionals and in our Faculty, our programs is not an ordinary program. We are here to become a professional in our fields. yes, we are not like CFAD students who can whatever they want but come to think of it, what are your fields?

Sir Lim will explain his any moment this week. I am not favoring our dean even though I am CE alumnus but before he became dean, we feel how you feel. Cause we'd been through in this situation as well. You're just feeling 10% percent of Sir Lim's Strictness, but based in our experiences, we're feeling 110% if there is more than 100% you wan to call it.

Elijah A. Bringas
Former Engineering COMELEC Chairman
CE Alumnus Batch '07

actually professionalism lang yung point ni dean pero kung sumobra na dun na talaga dapat...i mean sobra kapag there are lives at stake na or na overpower na ng admin ang student body

just to quote your message, may ganyan ding sked ang Science, Pharmacy, Med, Nursing, CRS... so bakit kayo magrereklamo.. tsk tsk. at naranasan ko rin yan.

hindi pa po ba? dun pa lng sa sinimulan nya na hanggang 9pm ang class tatlo na agad na kakilala ko ang naholdap.. parang sobrang inaabuso nya n kasi powers nya.. haha! nainis lng ako sa kanya.. :P

kaya nga the best option is to file a MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION... that's it.

signed by ESC and EDSA.

i know he is training us to become professionals but he is using the extremes... students will just rebel with all of his ordinance hence they will be harder to act like professionals...

believe me. you will. napagdaanan ko na yan. for 3 years din. at saka naging prof ko siya for 4 sems. tapos kung makikita niyo kami before... dala naming libro ay 3 malalaki na hard bound sa isa yang subject.

and i thank Sir Lim for that on what he taught us. sobra kong daming natutunan sa kanya..

abt dun sa 9pm ung class....mamila ka po papasok ka ng mondays to saturdays or tuesdays to saturdays lang....Eng'g has about 6K++ students to accomodate.

been there already. we had class sa kanya before from 7-9pm... sa di namin namamlayan... 9:30pm na pala at hindi pa siya tapos magturo.. so wag kayong magreklamo... at 5th yr na kami nun ha...

haha! sori nman. :P basta i really dont like his way of handling Eng'g.. sana iconsider nya rin un side ng students...

dude please. you're creating conflict. it's different form when you were still in ENGG and the situation we're in right now. Don't compare it from before 'cause it's a lot different. It's my 6th year na in engg and I've seen better days. This is not one of them.

tsk tsk tsk. kya lalong gumugulo e.. hahaha.

one thing sana din bago gumawa si dean ng mga ganung motions siguraduhin muna nia na talagang comfortable mag stay ang students sa Eng....e kung titignan tau ung pinaka kawawa sa lahat ng colleges. take for example nung TWW parang nagkamarka lang ang eng dahil sa number hindi dahil sa certain gimik.....

Engineering Division of Students Alliance....samahan ng Presidents ng mga existing Student Orgs sa Eng.

yan po organisasyon ng lahat ng major at minor orgs ng engg. binubuo lahat ng pangulo ng bawat organisasyon. Engineering Divisions Student's Alliance ang ibig sabihin nun kung hindi ako nagkakamali. :)

hay naku nagcocoment hindi naman pala alam...hahahaha PEACE!!!

Thomasian Welcome Walk

hala! hahahaha..

hahahaha...nang away ba daw ang Comm. Head ng SR!!!

grabe ka naman....hindi naman....kulang lang ang mahigit sampung taon para maisulat yun.....hahahahaha

at natahimik ang mundo...

ok lang away awayin yang pink na font na yan! hahaha!

wrong timing nga e! sinabay pa sa CBSA! grrr!

Please REFRAIN from using vulgar words and foul messages. This is still an OFFICIAL site of the UST ESC.

Be RESPONSIBLE of your WORDS and ACTIONS as THOMASIANS.

wag nio galitin yan baka makita nio pagkalalaki nian...hahaha PEACE at KAT!!!

my apologies

natalo lang ni balog si lim sa tekken kaya bi-nan na niya! pwede magmura?! nakakaurat na!

papost lang..

aww...bakit PSP pinagbawal?? di ba pwedeng Tekken na lang yung ipagbawal?? haha.. yun naman madalas nilalaro diba?? haha.. di ko na lang alam kung panu yun papatuparin.. eto, di ako sure dito ahh..kung gusto nya maging responsable tayo, hayaan nya na lang magPSP yung iba.. para mabawasan yung mga iresponsableng tao sa engg.. para kapag bumagsak silang mga nagpPSP, marealize nila yung maging responsable sila?? haha.. tsaka para solusyon na rin sa mga maraming estudyante sa engg..actually, wala talaga ako maisip na paraan, mejo tama naman ehh.. pero ayus naman magPSP, kesa naman lumabas pa ng skul para magDOTA...mas delikado pa yun..may point naman ako diba..haha..

aruy! wag naman sana ipagbawal pagdadala ng food sa loob kahit makalat.. magagawan naman siguro ng paraan yun..magpalagay sya ng mga upuan at table sa quadrangle ba yun??? basta yung kalupaan na walang function sa loob ng engg na puro puno lang.. kapag nilagyan ng upuan yun, pwede dun yung kainan..gets?? tsaka sobra sya ahh.. diba sya nagsabi na wag bigyan ng break mga estudyante?? tpos di pa pwede magpasok ng pagkain ahh..waw ha..haha..

SO AYUN, MAGPALAGAY NG KAINAN SA LOOB NG ENGG TSAKA TEKKEN NA LANG IPAGBAWAL..HAHA..

V. G. Santiago, 3 IT B

//short reaction

I think it should not be banned, for it's an outlet for some students.
Or for some, an award for a job well done.

"Play hard!... Study harder!" (or vise-versa) ;)

-Danilo "NeLo" Varias Jr. | 4ITA

no fair....

dapat pag walang klase pede..

ganun talaga mga fellow engineering students...hindi lang siguro naenjoy ni dean yung kabataan nya kaya pati tayo ayaw nya pagenjoyin...alam natin lahat n mahirap magaral at sobrang nkakastress...kaya kelangan din natin magwind-up kahit minsan...pagpasensyahan nyo na si dean...gusto ata tumakbong senador sa election e...sana politician nlng xa...madame siguro tlga xa magagawa...

guys...ala na tau magagawa...hanggat sya ang dean sa faculty of engineering kelangan natin sumunod at irespect mga desicions nya...aral nlng tau ng mabuti para di tau madebar!!!

nakakatuwa naman ang mga comments dito! :)

Before stating my opinion, I would like to express my appreciation sa ESC for their action in putting up this forum para malaman ang views ng students. It really is a good first step in determining the proper action to this issue.

I'm really against the policy sa food, OF COURSE notorious ako sa pagdadala ng pagkain and consuming them during class hours. Isipin niyo na lang, Parañaque pa ko galing, para hindi ako ma-late, I need to leave home 2 hours before the time. Our class starts 12:00 NN and ends at 8:00 PM on the average. There are days that 12-7 straight kami, at kung 10 ako aalis samin, dapat around 9:30 kumakain na ko ng kanin... HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LEARN WHEN MY STOMACH GRUMBLES EVERYTIME STARTING AT 2:00? pwede ko bang sabihin sa tiyan ko na "TUMIGIL KA! BAWAL KUMAIN SABI NI DEAN!"? Ginawa ko na yan dati, lumalabas na lang ako at umiinom sa fountain. Eto, ulcer inabot ko ;)

About the PSP issue, medyo against din ako, kasi nga... "stress reliever" siya.

However, the bottomline here is RESPONSIBILITY. If the students are responsible enough not to play PSP during class, I don't think the dean would issue this policy. COMMON SENSE naman, hindi na kailangang i-post pa na bawal mag-PSP during class. RESPECT NAMAN SA PROF! The same thing goes for the FOOD issue. If everyone will be responsible for their thrash, I don't think that ilalagay ni dean yung policy na yun.

Ang masasabi ko lang kay dean, sana nagbigay na lang muna siya ng warning about the PSP issue... katulad ng ginawa niya sa food policy. At sana meron man lang kahit 1 week adjustment period, dba? He, too, should be responsible in using the powers vested on him. Doc Mab was the dean before, and OK naman ang eng'g during her time...

LET US JUST BE RESPONSIBLE OF OUR OWN ACTIONS. BEAR IN MIND NA DAHIL SA IBANG IRESPONSIBLE, NADADAMAY YUNG IBANG MARUNONG SUMUNOD. IN THE END, IT'S NOT ONLY DEAN'S FAULT BUT OURS... THANKS TO THE "VERY NICE" STUDENTS.

Just my two cents worth :) sorry kung mahaba

-Van Tablarin 5 EASY-EASY... ECE-C pala! ;)

and if I may add, mas OK na ang PSP kesa umalis ang students during break time just to play dota, only to go back to class missing the first hour or even the whole class! Besides, ang PSP libre lang pag-gamit, ang dota mejo may kamahalan! hehehehe

To every leader:

"With power, comes great responsibility..."

~Spiderman

Naaaaks. hehe. Mga friends, college na tayo; hindi na highschool. Kaya dapat alam na natin mga responsibilidad naten sa lahat ng aspeto sa buhay. Socio ba ito?! haha! God Bless eng'g. ^_^

hay nako ano ba tong ibang mga pinopost dito para kayong si d*** e, ambilis bilis mag conclude, d man lang nagiisip ng maigi at pumipili ng salita.

as engineers, or it's and cs, alam natin na pag solve ng problem, first observe and analyze, look for the proper solution, and execute with precision. tapos zero sa quiz. di joke lang.

so pag analyze, HINDI PA PINAPATUPAD ANG PAGBAWAL NG PAGKAEN. clear ba un? NANANAKOT lang ang opisina na maglinis linis tayo at gawing kalat-free ang eng. ang PSP lang ang pinagbawal na. and from what i read, from playing GAMES.

tama ang pagbawal ng pag gamit ng psp habang may klase.

mali ang pagbawal ng pag gamit ng psp habang walang klase.
(the truth is, you cant control students, not in that way. that's just plain stu*idity.)

mali ang pagbawal na kumaen sa loob ng eng.

mali ulit ang pagbawal na kumaen sa loob ng eng.
(KAHIT NA SOBRANG KALAT.
to not eat is just not an acceptable solution. parang panic solution ang dating sakin nitong kalokohan)

ang solusyon, look for the proper way to voice out, use the proper words, and do it in a proper manner.

ang execution nyan ay magagawa lamang ng ating mahal na esc. kaya tulog na lng tayo kasi sila din ang may huling salita.


last comment: pabayaan nyo pag ayaw mag review ng mga studyante sa free time nila, TIME NILA YUN so wala ka na dun. pag di sila nagaaral, madedebar naman sila e. kaya nga may kick out at debarred e. para yun dun. gets? pag hindi nga siya nag aaral edi babagsak siya at matatanggal sa eng. ganon lng un. walang ibang rason.

college na to ano ba yan sa uplb nga pwede magyosi sa loob ng room.

POWER TRIP = i short na yan.

buti pa s commerce pwede =]]

hoho =]]

Somebody teach him how to use/play PSP and the ordinance shall be lifted.

What's next....

banning Laptop kasi pedeng din namn maglaro ng games dun

oh! before i forget isama nyo narin ang cellphone may games din un dbaH!

i believe that it is disrespectful to play gadgets during classes but banning PSP is not the solution to this problem....

we as students should be responsible for our actions

as what others have said MATANDA na tayo at ang pagtratrato sa ating parang BATA ay hindi makatarungan

let this be a lesson for all

students and admin alike

we should respect each other para maiwasan na ang mga useless na issue na to!

sa mga students n pasaway na naglalaro sa klase...sana tigilan nyo na

sa admin nmn BAWAS ng init ng ulo... one thing i've learned in college is never to make a decision habang mainit ang ulo ko... it might backfire at magsisi ako...

tungkol namn sa pagdadala ng FOOD..anung gusto nyo mag ka ulcer ang mga studyante nyo...kung mga prof nga nagdadala ng pagkain sa faculty dahil sa gutom panu pa kaya kaming mga student....

damihan nyo ang basurahan ng hindi napupuno at tumatapon ang laman.

sayang ang oras kung ung mga kakulangn n lng sa facilities sa eng ang inaayos d sana walng reklamo ang students

reg vergel de dios
4IM

First, it's handheld games. What's next? iPods and cellphones? Tch. Please. So if I were to suddenly take out my camera and snap a few shots in class even with the professor's permission, it'll be the next banned item JUST BECAUSE it's not necessary in class? Oh come on. This is a load of ********.

There's a fine line between discipline and oppression.

In the case of those two students playing in class, my god. That's like how much percent of the population in the entire building? I see NO logical reason whatsoever as to include the innocent people in such drastic and unreasonable measures. There is a way to make people listen to and follow you without having them hate you, y'know.

If the case is playing in class, then just ban the damn use during class periods. How old are we? 17-21 or older? I think we all have brains that are for more than just cramming during exam periods and thinking of the next gimmick location. Come on, people. What sort of dimwits would play IN CLASS? Like what I always hear from professors, if you're uninterested in the lecture, then don't attend! Sheesh! There is a fault here on the part of the administration for going to such drastic measures just because of a small contained incident, but then sometimes it's the students fault as to why the higher ups resort to disciplinary methods. But like I've said, this crosses the line.

I think it will be in the favor of all if this half baked policy would be retracted immediately and in its place, a compromise between the students and the administration. People in high school seek the extended freedom of college. But if this is what they're met with, I would personally prefer HS. Banning the games in class when there IS a class would be a healthy start, not jumping the gun and outlawing it throughout the building. This is, in my opinion, some of the worst tyranny since the Tyrannosaurus Rex. Seriously though, has he ever considered OUR opinion on the matter?

Edit and final quip >> Is this a means of discipline or a means to drive away students from the Faculty? I heard there's a very good university somewhere else in Manila along a certain avenue.

Martin G. M. Laureta, 2ITC

magdadala ako ng psp sa tuesday! hehe dun ako sa bench ng deans office maglalaro,


sino sasama adhoc tayo ng tekken dark resu? hahahaha

quote " Seriously though, has he ever considered OUR opinion on the matter? " unquote

when has he?

sed ramos bato?

LOL

kung gusto nya tumakbong senador sa election sa 2010 wag sya sa eng'g gumawa ng pangalan...kasi konti lang boboto sakanya sa eng'g...dapat siguro tinry nya maging barangay chairman...hmmm...bagay...PWEDE!!!haha...joke....sana naman unahin nya yung dapat unahin...

i move to make this as an anonymous flyer

aus lng un di ako maaapektohan ahehe jowk....... ipagbawal na kaya lhat!
pati pumasok na din....

ang tingin ko sa isue na yan eh sobrang pangingi alam.
un na nga lng ang time ng iba para marelax dhil sa sangdamukak na mga assgn, proj, mga alalahanin sa mga quiz ipagbabawal pa...
xempwe di naman nagcome up si dean sa disisyon na yan ng hindi nagiisip kaya bahala na lng..... ang mahuli LAGOT!

hmmm.. i think, di tama na pinagbawal ni dean ang paglalaro ng psp sa loob ng engg building dahil lang sa simpleng dahilan na may nahuli siyang estudyanteng naglalaro ng psp during class hours.. Bakit, lahat ba ng estudyante ganun?!?! di naman ah!! naman!! tska un na nga lang ung way ng iba na magtanggal ng stress after the day's quizzes at long hours of lecture nuh.. To the students, they should know when is the right time to play psp.. Play during breaktime. Do not play during class hours.. ay0a yan mga tol.. haha!! joke!

Tapos, regarding sa pagkaen, DUH!!! ANO BA YAN!!! ano ba akala nia sa engineering?!? madali?!?! xempre,, energy ang pagkaen.. pano makakapagicp ang estudyante qng gutom xa?? eh take responsibility nalang sa mga kalat pagkatapos kumaen.. diba? tska sana, damihan nila ung basurahan sa engg.. hehe..

un lang.. la nako masabe.. sana nalang, mapagicp icp ni dean na ilift ung ban.. hahah!!

I AGREE! kelangan nmen mga 5th year yan.

I think it is not fair to ban gadgets inside ENG'G bldg.

for this case, it is the PSP which is banned for the mere reason that he caught someone who played it during classes.

YES, the act was wrong since the student was not doing what a student should be doing during classes. BUT this doesn't mean that all the students who have this gadget would do the same thing.

i think it is more appropriate to have a MEMO POSTED FOR THE PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO WILL DO THE SAME THING-- PLAYING IT DURING CLASSES. NOT AN ORDINANCE TO BAN PLAYING PSPs for their spare time.

-ANA 4IM

balita ko may mga higher year levels na ipo-provoke si dean by means na magdadala sila lahat ng laptop, then may magdadala ng router... in short, gagawan sila ng LAN... not sure though kung what game lalaruin nila kse PSP and NDS pla ung bawal where you can surf the 'net using those 2 gadgets...

psp lng b ang nka-ban? ang basa q kc dun s announcement sa lobby, all gadgets na may kinalaman sa gaming. pero sna nmn wag n i-ban, dpat kc responsible enough ung students pra nde gmitin ang psp during class hours..

cnabi ko bang ikaw?
dear boy you are not the center of the earth

my apologies... looks like it you were pointing at me...

For everyone's benefit, let's be civilized in pointing out our grievances regarding this matter. Kalma lang mga pare. Official site padin to ng ESC. :)

hihihihihi :D
may dahilan ang lahat ng ginagawa ni dean
wag kayong papayag na i-ban ang laptop
wag na wag

reason is pde rin nman daw gaming device ung laptop whereas you can surf the 'net using PSP and NDS...

pwedeng gaming device yung kamay ko, nako pano nayan?, nag jajack enpoy kasi ako eh

may gusto akong idagdag pero wag na lang heheheheh

pano tayo makakapag multiply kung ban yang inisip mo hehe, i mean multiply.com hahaha

sodoku na lang daw ang official past time ng eng students

Wala ka karapatan tawagin ang isang professor na incompetent. Hindi pa nangangati pantalon ng erpat mo nagtuturo na yung mga yan.

eto palang ang nkikita kong aksyon ni honorable dean lim

1. sita ID
2. sita buhok
3. dagdag secu
4. ban dito ban duon
5. turn down almost all of our/my request
6. nagpapalayas ng classroom kapag gabi(nag rereview kasi or nag prapractice ng sayaw)
7. most of all ang pagiging plastic sa PAASCU, tapos tataas ang tuition, FTW!

magaling magaling, napaka helpful, siguro malulungkot tayo ng masyado kung matatanggal si dean, wohoo i mean, huhuhu

pde na nga syang pumalit kay bayani if that's the case.... sa lhat ng mga nagawa nya, wala man lang atang mgandang nagawa...

eh khit ba daw nun debate last eng'g week eh... gumawa sila ng program in a debate form ata un wherein sila parin ang dpat manalo against the students...

naku kung may dalang laptop yang guest speaker nyo at banned nayang laptop, deadz na kayo,


re edit ko lang pre,



"5. turn down almost all of our/my request, without any reasonable reason, dun ako uminit ang ulo sa dean natin, bigtime!"

Sir, cool ka lang, opinion ko lang ang tawagin siyang incompetent, hindi ko sinabing mag-agree ka sakin. Hindi ko hanap ang ganyang sagot mo na para bang makikipag-aaway ka. If you were offended by my statement then I'm sorry.

BTW, kung lahat ng gadget na pwede ang paglalaro eh pagbabawalan, bawal na pala ang Calculator ko, palagi akong naglalaro dun ng 1+1 hanggang makarating ako sa kung anu mang number. :)

siguro hindi pa nya nagiging prof si sir yap, kaya hindi nya pa na eexperience ang ibig mong sabihen...

i agree to you, dapat may aksyon dyan,

I really enjoyed reading this thread. : )

I also agree with the comments about being more responsible with our actions inside the building. Our dean was only able to push this policy through because certain irresponsible students were caught playing with their PSPs during classes, but I do believe that he went too far when he banned the use of PSPs inside the whole Engineering building.

And I hope the rumors about provoking our dean isn't true, because I believe that will only make things worse (but I did think of doing nasty things that would probably piss him off hahaha). Let's just put our trust on the officers and hope for the best.

I'm crossing my fingers that the meeting of the ESC with the admin would go well, in favor of the PSP supporters I mean : ). And if all goes well.... AD HOC tayo!! Tekken DR!! haha... I just hope I don't get delayed for playing too much... T_T

Roman Reyes - 5ECEC

Provoking the dean is stupid and illiterate. Wala tayong mapapala dyan.

nice sed, i will do that, respect the rank not the man,

maituturing bang gaming gadget ang rubik's cube? kc kung oo, bad3p un.. kc mga devices ang considered na gadgets e.

point very well taken! :) and besides, hindi sila magkakaroon ng titulo sa kanilang mga pangalan kung "incompetent" ang mga prof natin. siguro kaya lang sila nagiging "incompetent" dahil narin siguro na nagkaka-edad na ang iba nating mga guro.

RESPONSIBILITY& RESPECT..

respect the professors..it's not enough that we hear their voices..we have to listen and understand.. not play habang may nagka-class..kahit ba mahirap intindihin ang lesson at mas madaling aralin ang libro, that does not mean na may karapatan na ang estudyante na maglaro na lang sa loob ng klase..we're in the classrooms to learn..

be responsible enough to put your trash where it belongs - in the trash bin.. we're college students.. kawawa naman tayong mga nilalang kung ang napaka simpleng bagay ay hindi naten magawa ng maayos.. oo may mga janitors, pero napapagod din ang mga yan..kahit ba trabaho nila yan e..tumulong naman tayo..

people..wag naman natin sobrang gawing literal ang ginawa ni dean na Ban..wag naman maging pilosopo.. napaka babaw naman na nyan.. we just have to understand na malamang dahil sa nakita niya sa classroom na iyon e lumukso ang dugo nya sa galit at naisipan na i-ban ang mga gadgets and devices related to gaming..maaaring hindi niya napag-isipang mabuti ang ban na yan..kasi kung liliteralin naten, that ban would include cellphones (na kailangan naten for communication), laptops (na kailangan naten for various purposes), and maybe even Digital Audio Players (na ginagamit naten primarily for music..kaya nga DAP diba..)that have games installed in them..

"naglalaro kesa mag-aral.." <--wag naman ganito people..

Respect those who are above you..pero syempre, balansihin..yes, we have to voice out our opinions..pero please naman..not in a violent tone..

on their part naman..nawa naman e wag nilang makita na sunud-sunuran lang ang estudyante palibhasa rumerespeto na..as we respect them, they should at least respect us..they also have to remember that THEY should be the ones setting the example..if they don't respect our rights, then what kind of example are they showing us? But if we reciprocate such action, then we're just placing ourselves in lack of respect as well..

to both parties, Students and Faculty, let's help each other naman..as students, let's not make it harder for them to mold us into people worthy of respect.. for them, as the Faculty, please understand that we're students..humans..we need leisure..we need food..not just instruction and lecture.. we need to unwind and recondition in the midst of a busy schedule..our minds need rest as well..

First of, the incident that happened when the dean saw students playing their PSP's is illegal thats for sure. We cannot say anything about that anymore. But the fact that when one (two in this case) gets the blame, everybody will get the blame is too childish and absurd already. True we must be responsible for our actions but it is also true that we are not just some toddler or kid anymore that never knows when to stop playing as well. Ok, fine, house rules is house rules and we can follow it, but including a "ban of psp's"??? Isn't that already withholding rights of people to do things they want to do??? i do believe we can play these gadgets in the house as well without anyone telling us that we cannot play it since we are old enough to know what we have to prioritize in our lives. Moreover, our parents clearly know that as well.

About the no food policy on the other hand, before the ban would even arise, i do believe its now time for us students to be concerned with our surroundings most especially on things that we need to dispose PROPERLY. Remember, we must keep the place in a more cleaner environment at all times even after we already graduate. Surely you people don't want a world that is dirty and too polluted already right? be Responsible. as i said a while ago, we are old enough to know already.

-Daryl Jan Co Lim-
-3rd Year Student (supposedly 4th)-
-Future InfoTech specialist-

better reaction dude, kaya nga hinday nalang tayo sa magiging next move nila,
btw, lim lang ba talaga ang apelyido mo?

btw before i go to sleep


-euen ilagan
-4th year IE
-PSP with blue led light L/R gamer & certified tpcer

dahil mahaba ang reply ko, as in sobrang haba, ayan palitan ko n lng.

bago natin sabihin na mali ang isang bagay
ALAMIN NATIN ang mga kadahilanan sa LIKOD NITO.

for more info, read my blog :D ahahaha

ayan ah. ndeh na mahaba :D

http://akosisheldon.multiply.com/journal/item/18/REPLY_SA_PSP_stuff_sa_ENGG

kung interesado lng nmn keo sa POV ng isang
Kontrabida :D

such a lengthy post(nosebleed), anyway agree ako duon sa pagkain, last year pa yung warning, pero parang mas kumalat, sa pavillion, at sa section 2-19, napaka kalat na section grabe, sinasabi ko yang section nayan kasi ive experienced relieving the room section 2-19 used

pero dis agree ako duon sa psp, kung we are here in school to study not to play, sana wala nang mga eng week and mga department week, kung sasabihin nyo na isa yun para mabuo ang pagiging isang engineer, i have to say na kasama din yung little things such as having fun for a stress reliever, anyway goodluck nalang samen, 4th year 1st sem daw pinakamahirap samen huhu, numericals brain bleed :)

anyway, bookmark ko nalang po ito, at makikibalita tomorrow, kahit hindi na ako nag lalaro ng psp sa school, masakit paring malaman na bawal na ang psp sa eng'g building.

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2 cents ulit
In every adult is a frustrated inner child who needs attention every now and then..
My mom, my dad, they play the PSP at home, even more frequent than me, and they're what? 55 and 52 years old respectively..
They say its a relaxing experience after a hard day's work.*we dont have maids and we run our own business*

I respect Sir Lim ever since he usurped the vacancy left by ma'am andres.Yes, my kada even had humorous encounters with him like when he wants our hair cut down or he wants us to tuck our shirts in. He's even one of my will be profs *since the subject he teaches my section isnt exactly in my reg form*, though this is the only thing that i do not like in all of his ordinances.

I've always thought he was a very intellectual and unbiased person, pero THIS? how shallow-minded of him..

Maybe he should look at this at another perspective. He might not understand that this generation is a tad feistier and more rebelious than the last generations. This WILL do more damage than help. Some "kids" would just go out of class for commode breaks, never to return since he'll just go out, proceed to hardrock, and find his group there, savoring each press on the gamepad, relishing on the fact that rebellion was sweet, He should instead find other ways..

hire more checkers to check the corridors and ask all of the tambays for their reg forms..
Make profs more understandable and competent...
make them better disciplinarians...

This ordinance right here should be repealed..

I stand my ground firm in saying that the fault of one will never be the fault of all.

Yes we are here to study.. But we do need motivation as well.

it should be a give and take relationship, not the other way around.. Take away our right to FREETIME and give us heavier burdens that even home cannot compensate for..

I remember my then urban planning and surv 2 prof., he asked me to sap into the crowd taking a wager for the new uniforms, taking into consideration that there were no "abstain" votes. He then told me that in making a decision that will impact a community, proper procedures should be taken.. and Everything should be in order even before the process begins..

From him, I learned this. Everything should be run under proper due process. Meaning observations should be undertaken. Sabi nga sa surv, to get more feasible and proper results, multiple trials should be taken and not just one.. meaning no one incident should decide for the whole survey's fate, rather take multiple tests, then do the correction..

I may not be an avid gamer, just an onlooker or a frustrated player, but being also a person who experiences loooong boring breaks with a head full of stress after reviewing for the next class for two hours, I can say that I am stressed, but relieved that PSP's were made to atleast hamper the stress i experience.

Pero siyempre, Odds are, of course, the students should be responsible and wise enough not to play in class. siyempre, pag klase, we should learn, pero pag break..meaning no classes AT ALL, dun tayo pwede magrelax..

What i really dont like is the no food policy

Yes there are bad tomatoes in the bunch, but they shouldnt be taken as a representative for the whole.

I know its easier to burn a pile of tomatoes that include rotten ones in them, pero of course, you are paid to give attention to little details,not the whole basket all at once. sana naman pagtiyagaan niyo na mangsaway ng iilan at di pumatay ng marami.

Wala akong galit kay dean, I stand my ground in saying that he is a good professor and a good disciplinarian, pero masyadong radical yung move na toh, lalo na sa food.. especially nung nilagay ang majors sa gabi upang maaccomodate yung freshies. Having classes from 12 to 9pm straight intersects 2 important meals of the day, lunch and supper. there now, if you remove the two meals, what do you get? brain mush. the "LEARNING" they are talking about wont happen on stomachs growling like tigers. You get them on nourishment. Why not single out those who litter the premises? Thats what their job is, to locate and eliminate the threats.

They teach us urban and environmental planning, but they dont apply it. They teach us mindsets to think of others and how much impact one act would do to the ecology, but they do it the other way around. They carpet bomb people like what the americans did to afghanistan. they threw down bombs to both guilty and innocent alike.. Is that what they're trying to teach us? to kill off innocents to achieve greater good for ourselves? Now, Is that the Thomasian way? NO.

i could'nt agree more, good morning

Ako Mike may kilalang Kaklaseng ganun..
STUPID ba siya sayo?
^0^

I COMPLETELY AGREE with you Kuya Van!
Sa lahat ng sinabi mo..
Lalo na dito sa statement na to..
Opinyon lang naman ano..
MAS ok ang Engg during her time..
Even the releasing of budgets!
Ibang iba ang Engg ngayon kesa nung first two years ko..
Swerte ko at naabutan ko si Doc Mabini..
^_^

Calai Salinas, 4ITB

TAMA!!! :P :D the point is, the psp problem is just a minor prob pati students can resolve that on their own (sa class ata nmin ung 1 na nahuling naglalar0 :P) where else some one should really be thinking about more important stuffs... ...like this one :P

hmmm..i don't think dapat ipagbawal ung psp...dapat ipagbawal ung PAGGAMIT NG PSP DURING CLASSES..kasi nakakadestruct naman talaga yun sa iba and disrespectful sa prof..pero hndi naman dapat ipagbawal ung paggamit ng psp inbetween calsses..pang alis stress daw ng iba un...and we all know na engineering can be reeaaaally stressful..haha..

Yan ang problema sa mga tao ngaun eh. Masama na bang maging mabait at fair sa lahat ng involved? Is it too "OLD FASHIONED" to actually be considerate?

Pero on the other hand, IS IT NOT COOL TO STUDY WELL? Hindi naman magkakaroon ng issue na ganito kung hindi naglaro sa classroom ung mga taong involved eh.

Pare-pareho lang tayong mali, ang problema nga lang, wala tayong karapatan parusahan si Dean pero sya merong karapatan parusahan tayo. =(

wala nmn masama sa psp.. libangan lang yan twing walang magawa... ipag bawal lang dapat ito kung habang nagkaklase.. marami ka rin nmn pwede matutunan sa psp eh.. haha!

4CEA

One more thing, hindi ba dapat dipende sa students kung ano ang gusto nilang gawin during THEIR free time? provided syempre na they don't distract others. That's what democracy is all about...

sa mga nagrereklamo po about aircons
bibigyan ko kayo ng mga kaalaman.

SA tuition fee na binabayaran natin
maswerte na tyo na AIRCON ang classroom natin.
I spent 8 years sa ust ELEM na walang aircon
4 years sa USTHS na may mga mahina ding aircon
at ang tuition namin nung tym na yun is proportional sa tuition natin ngayon.

Isa pa, bago po tyo makapag install ng bagong aircon units
manghihingi pa tyo ng budget from above.
HINDI ADMIN NG ENGG ANG MAY HAWAK ng pera.
ITS a hierarchy which extends higher up.
so basically what I'm trying to say is that kung may plan palitan ang aircon
its a long process which needs approval FROM THE SCHOOL ADMIN. not ENGG ADMIN.
so unless may isang napaka-yamang alumni or person na willing maging sponsor,
ALL of us WILL GO through the same aircon problems.

pwede po ba malaman kung wla tyong ibang pwedeng gawin sa free time natin? PSP na lang ba tlga o other gaming consoles ang taning pde nting gwin?

sana po kasi maisip din natin
BINAN ANG PSP, NOT YOUR RIGHT TO USE YOUR FREE TIME WISELY.

alam ko e2 title..Student's response to NO PSP policy
pero gusto ko lang sabhin to..
dami daming pinapansin, bat di na lang ung mga aircon ang pansinin nila..
sa pagkakaalam ko naglilibot libot si dean sa buong eng,
kaya nya napancn ung PSP..
bat ung aircon di pinapansin.. ung aircon dun sa 5th flr,ndi lang ata sa 5th flr.. halos lahat me F na nagbiblink.. ung aircon namin d2 sa bahay halos kapareho ng aircon sa eng.. kaya alam ko na pag me F.. ibig sabhin madumi! ung dumi ng sahig napapancn.. pero ung dumi sa aircon hindi.. ano klase un

magulo ata sinabi ko. basta ganun.hehe

kenneth laurel, 4itb

OO nga. trust me complaints about the aircon ang other facilities are being adressed. pero tulad ng sinabi ko,

kAHIT anung kagustuhan ng admin ng ENGG na palitan ang mga bagay na ito, matatagalan pa din sila dahil sa sobrang dami din ng inaasikaso ng admin :D

ps, ndeh lng po ENGG ang may faulty airconditioning Units.
may ibang classroom sa ibang college na sira din mdalas ang mga gamit. :D

(edited for author's personal reasons)

Oo nga po pala....
panu ko ba sasabihin toh,
it has come to my attention na may mga viewers ng blog na ito
even some posters are "spies"

ingat lang po about posting rumors and naming names. NDEH lang po tayo ang nakakabasa
ng mga andito. :D

the dean?
hmm
mahirap kasi iquantify eh.
ang hirap po kasi dahil most of the things he has done
magiging aware lng tyo pag nagtratrabaho na tyo.
i can say na pag nagwork kayo,
there are figures na far more authoritative than he is
when that time comes maaapreciate natin yung efforts ni dean para imold tyo to become PROFESSIONALS. :D

sna po bago natin sabihing mas maganda ang engg nung time ni Former Dean Mabini, iconsider natin ang parameters ng situation.

sa budget, nabalitaan ko through contacts na hindi lang sa engg nagkakaron ng ipitan ng budget. Nagkataon lng siguro na nung time ni Dean Mabini, hindi pa gnun kahigpit ang Higher UPS.

@iamcalai, @ bonkers
nirerespeto ko ang opinyon niyo about Dean Mabini and Dean Lim's time. pero sana po, alamin din po natin yung condition university wide. ndeh lng sa atin. because you might be surprised at what's going on outside the Faculty of Engineering.

whats going on outside the faculty naman, para naman ma explain kasi, wala kasing transparency kaya akala namin walang ginagawa, or wala talagang ginagawa?

again,whats going on outside the faculty? try us

@midshot i cannot say.
i am not in a position to disclose such matters :D

kaya lang parang tyo lang ang affected is because sa atin lang may DEAN na willing isacrifice na magmkhng Villain para lang maUPHold ang rules at regulations ng BUONG UST. :D

OO NGA. ilang beses na ba natin nirequest ipaayos to nung summer?? ilang beses na ba tayong nag follow up? sos.

my bad! :) I should have checked the condition university wide... pero hindi lang naman sa budget diba... sa policies din. But, then again, that's just my honest opinion... you may have yours... and I respect that. Thanks for you comments at sana maliwanagan mo kami tungkol sa issue na ito. :)

check here for my topic about the paascu

http://www.friendster.com/group-discussion/index.php?t=msg&th=1036795&start=0&

@bonkers, you need only open your eyes.
nasasabi ko ang mga nasasabi ko base sa experience ko sa UST at
sa community ng mga tulad ko. I have spent most of my life in this institution. kaya i can say na ndeh lng sa engg nararanasan ang problems na yan.

anong nangyari sa meeting..

honestly, ako napagsabihan rin ni dean about sa PSP [we were playing tekken that time] but it was during our DISMISSAL TIME! [I'm sure staying at the bldg. is not a bad thing even after classes.]

if he really plans to ban the PSP and any other portable gaming console because he caught some students playing during classes, i hope next time he wouldn't also ban the use of celfone inside the building. why? sa nakikita ko, mas madami ang gumagamit ng kanilang phone during class time and sometimes ginagamit rin yan for cheating.

as for the PSP di naman yan magagamit sa cheating or some sort pero sana lng rn alamin natin ung tamang oras rn kung kelan natin gagamitin ung gadgets natin. ok lng talaga sana bawal PSP during classes BUT wag naman sana totally ban sa engineering. awwww.. it looks like he still treats us as highschool students.

that's my OPINION..

gm hermosa, 2CS-D

tama greg.... using cellphones during class hours is a lot worse than using PSPs during class hours since you can somehow use your cellphones during quizzes since it can lead you to some answers whereas PSPs are only used for gaming, mp3, net surfing, movies, and others, but never cheating....

i think iniisip lng ng Dean na kapag nakita tayo naglalaro di na tayo nag-aaral.. engineering kasi tau eh, mahihirap mga subjects kaya dapat lng n mag-aral, pero syempre sino ba ang hindi mapapagod? kelangan rn natin ng pmpaalis ng "stress".. actually, gawain ko n maglaro muna bago mag-aral kasi nakakatulong talaga sa akin na marelax muna ung mind kaysa sa ung tuloytuloy nag-aaral.

pero ung pinakapoint talaga dito.. nasa atin ung responsibility natin as students. there's a time for studying and "playing". on the other hand, sana sa maayos rin na paraan ung pag"ban" ng PSP and the like para di rn madamay ung mga wala nman ginagawang masama s paglalaro nito..

you may have heard it before, im sure, but im going to repeat it:

people learn from mistakes.
experience is the best teacher.

so what if a student wants to play psp instead of studying? it's his damn choice. if he fails, then it was his damn choice too. simple. To instill discipline and control to a student or even a human being, you must let him/her use his/her own freewill. Let him/her know his/her actions, and the consequences (failing because of playing psp instead of reviewing). Still, a person grows when he learns by him/herself. To be matured, is to develop his/her own thinking. And how can we do this when people with power sets rules which he/she thinks is best for everyone...when people with power THINK they know what's best for everyone. What the dean is doing, is FORCING us to be controlled individuals. At least that's what i think.

tama sabi nung isa...WRONG IMPLEMENTATION. there are other ways. THINK.

cmon dean, can't you be more creative? THINK. =)

mga guys hintayin nalang natin ang kanilang desicion at kung nasa tama ba ang move nila,


hintayin nalang natin guys, paulet ulet na ang ating mga reactions, imo

mukang masama, kasi wala pang report si kat corpuz,

btw, nice job on her part :)

hey guys,,, BANNING PSP could be taken positively or negatively,,, Yes, it's too damn insanely abrupt banning PSP because it is as if we were been deprived of our freedom. But Lesson learned here is as important as the lesson itself,, To our Dean, maybe he might not understand our sentiments.. and i can't answer why? But "maybe" he's just doing his job so "OA"... Yes we enrolled in UST for academic purpose,, but can they not see that technology changes a lot,,, before cellphone was just for luxury and business,,, but now its becoming a neccessity.. just like PSP,, we couldn't blame one for buying it,,, it's a useful gadget,, games, mp3, Net, saving device,, the hell it's really useful.. As for me, passing a subject with high grades doest really exactly need to be in front of your book all day all night all break.... Was Dean a perfect student when he was in college?? did he not fail any quiz?? PSP is not the only hindrance to students failure,, there's DOTA, beer, nightlife, vices and the like... Or it could be Family problems, relationship and all... we may never know... It's better to play PSP inside the eng'g building than to drink beers in anywhere near UST right???

OT: c midshot adik sa pagpo-post! hahahaha! peace! :D

with all due respect po sa iyo, hndi ba parang sinabi mo na din na we have no other alternative than to use said gadgets? nakakatuwa lang kasi at para mo na ring sinabi na its either psp or these other vices eh. As a student, bakit priority ang vices na ito? and no, playing psp is not better than drinking beer outside ust. if we use these kind of reasoning, it only implies that we are immature in our views sa mga bagay bagay. There are other things we can do na mas productive kaysa mag psp or magbisyo.

nga pala, hindi po binawal ang pagdala ng psp. usage nito sa ENgg building ang ipinagbawal. if you really think it is necessary for you as a "relaxation tool" ang laki ng UST, why not use it sa labas ng engg?

Ahh. i see, your point is walang space outside the engg dahil madameng tao? Yes btw, I have tried to find a comfortable place. and there are several. even at peak hours.

lack ng break? bakit mo naman nasabi yan? ang understood rule kasi since I was in kinder sa UST is to have a break within every 6 hours. ndeh nmn sguro every sem may 6 hours straight ka na sched....

and also, kung tyo nagcocomplain about the breaks, ibang courses din. so its a matter of using the time alloted for breaks wisely :D

(edited for author's reasons)

huh? kokontrahin? ginigigil? wooow. watch the hostility. SO your saying your free to criticize pero yung mga may points na contradictory sa point mo bawal? kung gs2 mo mangigil, do so. I hold responsibility for every opinion I say.

and no, I am not countering (lack of a better word) the opinion of other people, I am merely asking them to also consider the other side of the equation.

Thank you!

point taken wesal. sa tingin niyo ba talaga hindi ginagawan ng solosyun ng ating admin sa engg ang mga complaints na yan? hindi kea natural lng tlga na matagal bago ma approve ang mga plans? i mean, is it not possible na bago maaprove ang mga plans ay dumadaan muna tlga ito sa isang proseso na time tested? with or without the existence of high powers, plans still need to be studied, analyzed, and debated within the admin bago ito maimplement :D

pede man ang PSP sa eng o hindi.... UST is still UST

please leave this blog immediately
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ahahaha...

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dear students,
i'm sure and i do believe that you do whatever it takes to comply with university's requirements
and in turn the university must recognize and attend to your needs AS A STUDENT
tandaan nyo kayo ang pinakamatatalino sa UST
wag kayong papabastos sa sistema
pero wag din kayong bastos
bawal bastusan!

"UST is still UST"
these words i borrowed from Dean Lim

HAHAHAHAHAHA. panu mo naman nasabi? :D
research kea namin yung router :D